[kicad-users] Questions about KiCad 5.0

[Lev [e-mail] [kicad-users]]

Dear KiCad,


First of all, thanks for releasing KiCad 5.0! This is great!

I have some questions though...

1. 3D library. Is there any way for KiCad not to download 3D packages
from github, rather use a directory on the disk?
2. Schematic symbols. I've opened one of my old (4.07) designs,
and I get this warning messages:


10:33:32 AM: Alias '74273' not found in library:

'/home/lev/git/library/electronic/symbol/kicad/l_74xx.dcm'

at line 3 offset 11
10:33:32 AM: Alias '74573' not found in library:

'/home/lev/git/library/electronic/symbol/kicad/l_74xx.dcm'

at line 8 offset 11
10:33:32 AM: Alias '74LS138' not found in library:

'/home/lev/git/library/electronic/symbol/kicad/l_74xx.dcm'

at line 14 offset 13
10:33:32 AM: Alias '74LS273' not found in library:

'/home/lev/git/library/electronic/symbol/kicad/l_74xx.dcm'

at line 19 offset 13


As you can see, these are all my home built symbols. The question
is why the aliases can't be found? Is the file format changed?
If yes, is there any script that converts the old library to be
compatible with 5.0?


Thanks,
Levente


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Levente Kovacs
Senior Electronic Engineer

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[Andy Eskelson [e-mail] [kicad-users]]

It should be possible,

On the main launcher there is a preferences menu. select the configure
paths and change the 3d path to your own.

You may have to do something similar in the paths setup in PCB new and
also in eeschema (which will also solve your other issue)

I made sure that there were no github paths in PCBnew, and only my own
libs were listed.

This is one of the only bad things about Kicad, It should NEVER use
github or any other online library. All libs should be user
defined and controlled.

So generally you should set up your own libs, check them for
suitability and then point kicad only at those. This ensures that the
library part you are using is the correct one, and that any adjustments
that you have made are maintained (such as those needed for various PCB
production houses)

For online lib, you should download them and put them in a separate
directory, then after carefully checking the particular part you are
interested in, move it into your own libs as needed. Only then can you
be sure that the part is OK.

The other problem is that kicad is in bit of a hard place when beginners
pick up the system, and if the libs wee not there they would moan loudly
about it. So we will have to live with the current system. I admit that
it would be nice to have a better management of this aspect but once you
switch to your own libs it's really not that much of a problem.

Andy








On Sun, 15 Jul 2018 10:37:53 +0200

Post by Lev ***@gmail.com [kicad-users]
Dear KiCad,
First of all, thanks for releasing KiCad 5.0! This is great!
I have some questions though...
1. 3D library. Is there any way for KiCad not to download 3D packages
from github, rather use a directory on the disk?
2. Schematic symbols. I've opened one of my old (4.07) designs,
'/home/lev/git/library/electronic/symbol/kicad/l_74xx.dcm'
at line 3 offset 11
'/home/lev/git/library/electronic/symbol/kicad/l_74xx.dcm'
at line 8 offset 11
'/home/lev/git/library/electronic/symbol/kicad/l_74xx.dcm'
at line 14 offset 13
'/home/lev/git/library/electronic/symbol/kicad/l_74xx.dcm'
at line 19 offset 13
As you can see, these are all my home built symbols. The question
is why the aliases can't be found? Is the file format changed?
If yes, is there any script that converts the old library to be
compatible with 5.0?
Thanks,
Levente
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Senior Electronic Engineer
W: http://levente.logonex.eu
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[Lev [e-mail] [kicad-users]]

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[Andy Eskelson [e-mail] [kicad-users]]

Hi Levente,

Post by Lev ***@gmail.com [kicad-users]
Yes. I'm completely with this process. I think this is doable with symbols and footprints,
but with 3D models, you are forced to use github, which is I think a bad design.

It's been so long since I used 3d models...


I copied the 3d modules into my own directory structure.

Then I changed the preferences > configure paths KISYS3DMOD to point to
my own directory.

All that I needed to do then was ensure that the 3d model in the
footprint preferences was pointing to the 3d modle in my own
directory.

Changing KISYS3DMOD makes life a bit easier when you use the add 3d
module option on the fooprint editor.

The modules work fine that was, with no references to git


You can also tweak the settings in
home/youruser/.config/kicad/kicad_common if you prefer. (you will prob
need to restart kicad if you change things that way.

It's also worth keeping a copy of fp-lib-table, just in case that gets
overwriten with a new install. I can'r recall that happening to me, but
if it did it would save a lot of messing about in setting things back up.


After that it does not really matter what kicad does, it will shove it's
libs in usr/share... and leave your directories alone. You may need to
reset a few paths if the install is onto a totall clean computer, but
that's about all.

Andy

[Lev [e-mail] [kicad-users]]

On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 11:12:57 +0100
Yes, you are right. The wizard was confusing me. Yes, it is possible to point KISYS3DMOD to anywhere in the filesystem.

I did another installation on my laptop, and it works fine.



Levente

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Senior Electronic Engineer

W: http://levente.logonex.eu

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[Maciej Sumiński [e-mail] [kicad-users]]

Hi Marek,

What is the runtime error you see in 5.0-rc3?

I think the footprint you want to modify is locked. You can either
select it and press 'L' or open the properties dialog and change the
lock settings there.

Cheers,
Orson

Post by Marek SP7DQR ***@wp.pl [kicad-users]
Hi all,
I downloaded Kicad v5.0 RC3, but when I want to run PCBNew I have a Runtime error.
Next I downloaded v6.0 RC1 and PCBNew is working OK, but I cannot to edit each
pad separately - when I right click on the pad, I haven't possibility to select
object, that I want to edit.
It is any new configuration option to change this or it is a bug?
Best regards,
Marek
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I analyzed Kicad gerber file using CAM tool.  I could not understand, why a circle needs to be broken into segments and traces needs to overlay over the power plane polygon to connect all the circles,  Gerber standard allows user of circular shapes. 
On Thursday, July 19, 2018, 6:13:22 PM GMT+5:30, Maciej Sumiński ***@cern.ch [kicad-users] <kicad-***@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi Marek,

What is the runtime error you see in 5.0-rc3?

I think the footprint you want to modify is locked. You can either
select it and press 'L' or open the properties dialog and change the
lock settings there.

Cheers,
Orson

Post by Marek SP7DQR ***@wp.pl [kicad-users]
Hi all,
I downloaded Kicad v5.0 RC3, but when I want to run PCBNew I have a Runtime error.
Next I downloaded v6.0 RC1 and PCBNew is working OK, but I cannot to edit each
pad separately - when I right click on the pad, I haven't possibility to select
object, that I want to edit.
It is any new configuration option to change this or it is a bug?
Best regards,
Marek
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